Douglas, with his silver tongued oratory, eviscerated and embarrassed the fine old gentleman. My one outstanding memory of that presentation was his treatment of an aging Barr Colonist and business man, H. C. Messum, during the question and answer session.

Over the past several years of researching the CCF/NDP I have found that many writers are trying to cover up or explain an embarrassing past rather than highlight a brilliant legacy. Ohhhhh and lets not forget he pushed to have the eugenics laws in BC which were enacted by the Liberals in he 40s years terminated. I'm glad some others have already found the phony term "economic democracy".

Not near dead enough! I'm sure that the standard of public morality we've helped build will force government in Canada to approve complete health insurance.

Not only is that guy an intellectual lightweight, but he's dumber than a bag of hammers. http://elizabethmcclung.blogspot.com/2006/08/nellie-mcclungs-eugenics-her-shame-and.html, Posted by: heyyoukidsgetoffmylawn at January 3, 2010 5:51 PM. Without his foresight and tenacity we would not have universal, government sponsored health care. For any of life's problems, there's nothing a bit more government won't fix. Actually, I am unaware of ANY instance in which referring to a group of people as a “Mafia” has been anything other than a derogatory reference to a group of unscrupulous thugs.

Quotes › Authors › T › Tommy Douglas › Fascism begins the moment a ruling... Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege.

And freedom means being free from want! As far as the camps go, Tommy and the CCF DID build them! My dream is for people around the world to look up and to see Canada like a little jewel sitting at the top of the continent. BTW that happened but only when the NDP took power. Until the day I day, I will wonder why the left say they want more personal freedom, but then scream for more government intervention. Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege. "economic democracy" - is that like"social justice", and other meaningless contradictory expressions the left`likes to use when they really mean "a boot,stomping on a human face, forever", http://unitedstatesofscamerica.blogspot.com/2010/01/pass-bark-please.html, Special camps for sub-normals. I figure state dependent families would be smaller, by choice, if they were not rewarded for irresponsible behavior.

There is no such "right". Douglas at first laments fascism, and then proposes it's use to rid ourselves of degenerates. "Without his foresight and tenacity we would not have universal, government sponsored health care.". Both still have the desire to control how many children are allowed. Tommy Douglas “

Half your life's work is now taken by a Government who uses your money to persecute you in HRC's. Maybe Mr Goldstein can be prevailed upon to send a copy to Kate or to post a copy on the Net? TD's first quote above refers to "economic democracy", which to me is laissez-faire capitalism. Special camps for sub-normals. They know. Next time you think Government is your friend remember this. Was he going to build camps for right wing conservatives? McMaster's website to view tommy dear's thesis. The slave collar in Canada is light at the moment.

Tommy Douglas Quote: “Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege.” As a libertarian, I only resent having to pay for the by-choice single welfare mothers and work-shy families. The scumbag who forced undemocratic ideals on our once great nation. How many people did the socialist/libs put in institutions and sterilize because the so called experts deemed them retarded?

women after they had had an allowed quota of children and not stopping them from any procreation at all as for the complete "mental and moral defectives". Messum was not a spellbinding orator but asked some well prepared questions. It's a must read I must say. To be clearer, I think it was sterilizing R.C. ...code word for "legislated extortion and redistribution". Douglas was right.". Free people free to make their own decisions and to live with the consequences is as good as humanity is ever going to have it. http://morris.mcmaster.ca/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=W20E4526539R7.99100&profile=lib&source=~!morris&view=subscriptionsummary&uri=full=3100001~!784779~!4&ri=3&aspect=basic_search&menu=search&ipp=20&spp=20&staffonly=&term=Douglas,+Thomas+Clement,+1904-&index=AUTHO&uindex=&aspect=basic_search&menu=search&ri=3#focus. Even today some of the ideas surrounding universal health care that Douglas envisioned are being adopted in Obama's health care legislation. Olbermann slams Limbaugh and Robertson for hatred ... Harper, "Naked self interest" - The Economist, Canadian Labour Law & Industrial Relations Blog. It takes a government to kill millions. Setting people to spy on one another is not the way to protect freedom. So hArd to typppe witth ooooone hhhhannd.

I do not see much difference between yesterday's eugenicist and today's enviro-nut. I buried a good many people that I knew, some of whom I loved. Just because defectives want sex, and you want sex, doesn't make you a defective. Well, at least Douglas didn't try to sterilize people when he actually obtained political power, so far as I know. Would you sterilize them as well? A defective way of thinking indeed. Hint: Not the Liberals.

One each per election. There is no such "right". Still, they must work -much- harder to wring anything other than Nazi juice out of Tommy [Sieg HEIL!] It cost us rightly half a billion to pay back in part what was stolen form these folks. You forgot your /sarc tags, troll-boy. The second Tommy Douglas quote is not dated but I bet it comes from the 1930s when eugenics was in fashion.

Victorian era, Social Darwinism, Conservatives, do I need to spell it out again? Nobody loves the special privileges and exploitation of the average Joe like socialists do.

The first quote contains a glaring anti-concept in this sentence: "Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege.". I also noted in some of the Douglas critique pages aside from the thesis itself that Tommy is blaming sinful women more for this "problem" and not men. Tommy Douglas; - “Once more let me remind you what fascism is. Tommy Dougas; - Some have objected to sterilization on the grounds that it is depriving human beings of an unalienable right.